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The Strategic Compass: Navigating the Intersection of GRC and Sustainability

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Climate mandates, GRC strategy, and a bike metaphor that’ll change how you think about controls.

In this episode, Alyssa Zucker speaks with sustainability expert Mark Mellen on California’s SB 253 soft launch—and why companies treating this year as a free pass will be blindsided in 2027. Then 25-year GRC veteran Graeme Fleming explains why governance-first programs help organizations move faster.

Chapters
00:00—Intro: California, GRC, and what's at stake
01:45—Mark Mellen: California SB 253 and the soft launch
07:00—SB 261, climate risk, and the commercial case
10:00—Global mandates: CSRD, ISSB, and the fragmented web
11:30—The ESG controller and data governance
17:00—Quantifying sustainability value
20:00—Graeme Fleming: Putting the G back in GRC
22:00—AI, the EU AI Act, and GRC's strategic role
23:00—The bike brake framework


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